So Nick’s been playing his Death Knight pretty heavily — 73 already, almost caught up to my holy paladin. Damn him. I spent YEARS working on Sechet to get her to the place she is now… he grinds instances for a couple of weeks and is already comparably geared? Damn expansion packs!
Anyway, it’s a good thing, because now we can supply ANY party member — he’s got tank & ranged dps, I’ve got healer & melee dps. I’m looking forward to the Looking for Group channel messages of “2 anything, LF3M anythings.” (Almost as good as “4DK, LF1MDK”)
If you don’t get that, well… whatever. It’s warcraft stuff. Better to ignore.
So the other night, Nick’s running with a group, and a really nice bind on equip two handed axe drops. BoE items are a bit unusual — most good things, when they drop, are bind on pickup. Meaning, you can’t sell it, its yours forever. Bind on Equip means you can sell it on the AH, and if it’s something pretty skookum, you can occasionally make a pretty penny.
But, Warcraft also has a Need vs. Greed system built in, with “Need” of course getting higher priority. My guild, for example, has a standing policy that you “need” on things that are on-spec, “greed” for off-spec, and if nobody rolls either, a disenchanter will go and pick it up. (We won’t talk about the time that Nick accidentally greeded something to disenchant that someone else wanted for off-spec… oops. “Well, maybe I can just strap those void crystals onto my feet…”)
But, in a pick up group, you generally go with what Blizzard intended, unless the group leader wants something different & everyone agrees ahead of time. So, if it’s an upgrade, you need. If not, you greed. If it’s bind on pickup, and there’s an enchanter in the group, pass and let them greed, as they can disenchant it instead. Then roll on the disenchanted results (either right away, or at the end of the instance.) If there’s no enchanter, greed and vendor it for a few gold. Whatever.
Anyway, since the axe in question was a big upgrade for Nick’s death knight, he rolled need. Three members of the party were gracious with their “congrats!”
Except… one guy. Who decided to be an utter tool, and spent the next 15 minutes calling Nick a ninja, and generally insulting him copiously. In a (misguided, if you ask me) effort to make peace, Nick offered to let everyone roll again, and he’d pay 100g to whoever rolled highest. Everybody else said no, that’s fine, it’s an upgrade, you won it fair and square. Except for the Douche, as we will hereby refer to him, who was throwing quite the fit, continuing to refer to him as a greedy ninja, etc etc. Well, conveniently, he got kicked from the group… and, of course, was replaced in about 30 seconds. DPS is easy to come by. Douche continued msg’ing Nick until he finally ignored him. I added him to my ignore list, too — not that I’m expecting him to msg me, but it’s an easy way to track “People I don’t ever, ever want to group with.” I think there are about 4 people on it. (Dear Blizzard: Please provide an alternative to the friends list — like, say, a “shit list” that isn’t just the ignore list. I don’t want to ignore him. I just never want to group with him.)
Fast forward to the next day. Someone msg’s Nick asking if he can tank. He checks the guys group, and sees the Douche in it. Says, “No thanks, so-and-so is a jerk.”
Lo and behold… the party leader kicks the Douche, and re-invites Nick who eagerly accepts, tanks right nicely, and everybody lives happily ever after (except the douche, of course.)
Moral of the story? Well, several. 1 – Don’t piss off your tank. Like healers, they’re .. well, not more important than DPS, but harder to replace. DPS is a dime a dozen. 2 – don’t be a douche.
I love karma.
Yeah, I don’t think I understood a single word of this. (I know, I was warned.) :)
Oh man, I love it. In the few pickup groups I’ve done, I’ve been lucky in that everyone seemed pretty cool. I can totally see where someone acting like that would make enemies real fast.
Once Nick even made the offer to re-roll and pay out to the winner of the roll, that guy should have just shut the hell up. (OK, he shouldn’t have opened his trap in the first place, but I digress)
The one problem I have with pickup groups is the lack of communication on picking up dropped items. I have had a few people roll “need” on stuff that they can’t even use. In a group, I always roll greed unless I know 100% certain that the item is an up for me and no one else can use it. Pisses me off when a mage, warlock or healer “needs” a high end weapon or armor.
On the other hand, I’m only level 50, so I haven’t been doing groups/instances in areas with the really good stuff that’s hard to come by.
Perry: The non-warcraftian summary is… guy was being a douche to Nick. Nick, being more valuable than the douche, got him kicked out of another group because new group would rather have Nick than the douche. :D
Andrew: Yeah, it’s *generally* a good idea to lay down the loot rules early, if you’re the group leader. That said, by end game, most people understand that in a pug, you need on upgrades, greed on anything else, and pass if there’s a disenchanter.
At lower levels, a lot can be explained away by not knowing what they’re doing, if this isn’t just an alt. In which case, education is good, so by the time they get to end game they have a clue. :D
My main is a frost mage, so I only get into groups via random chance. Rarely do I get involved with guild stuff. Right now a bunch of the obsessives (they’re already 80) are running the end-game instances. Heh.
I have a Paladin alt because that way I can be a tank or a healer. Those seem to be the most-requested for classes. Of course, said Paladin is only level 23, and he’ll probably never get too high. Once I hit 80, I’m going to try to get enough money for the chopper before school starts. That’s going to be difficult.
Thanks for translating that into English for me. :)
Actually, the simplification reminds me of one of my favorite bits from The Simpsons:
Hibbert: Homer, I’m afraid you’ll have to undergo a coronary bypass operation.
Homer: Say it in English, Doc.
Hibbert: You’re going to need open heart surgery.
Homer: Spare me your medical mumbo-jumbo.
Hibbert: We’re going to cut you open and tinker with your ticker.
Homer: Could you dumb it down a shade?
I follow the story, yet cock my head sideways at the language.
What kind of freaky, fucked-up universe am I living in when “greed” is a verb and “ninja” is an insult?